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Here's my comment - It's no wonder there's is so much violence in this world. I happen to go to the movie theatre last week. All the previews are gorey and very violent. I read the Patch and what do I read, more gorey horrific reports of sons killing their mothers IN DETAIL. What is wrong with you? In my opinion, you don't need to go into the details. If people feel they need more details about the horrible murder, let them get the details for themselves. PATCH, you've lost me as a reader.

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Drugs, rap music, heavy metal music, more drugs, alcohol, violent video games, violent movies are affecting young people I'm record numbers. It's really sad that these Mothers who birthed out these young men would be brutally murdrerd by their own sons. If I could move into the mountains far away from the destructive behavior that is taking place in our society I would. I don't trust young people why? Because many of them are crazy as HELL!!!!!

Hank
What in the world is wrong with these younger people today, beating, stabing, and killing their parents? Too many younger people hooked on these drugs, making them go out of their mind.

How the eff you know all that without a body come on man who the eff you take the people for Mitch

Am I the only one looking at mugshots of older gentlemen too. Are they violent because of video games and rap music too?

Something is really wrong with society, and I won't pretend to have the answers. My guess is kids haven't been supervised enough, both parents have to work full-time jobs to live in areas that have "good" schools and their kids are either in front of TV's or video games, or are on their ipod or iphones. When children are isolated from reality, i.e. on the phone all the time, or computer, or texting, etc. they don't learn normal emotions, they don't learn how to deal with other people. All the drugs, well I don't have an answer for that, except maybe its related .... unsupervised, diconnected kids looking for something that is missing in their life, I really don't know.
The adult criminals, well those are just scum-bags that have slipped thru the cracks of society, they've always been around, we just hear about it more because we have many more ways to hear about it, not just the 10pm news or the morning newspaper, like our parents/grandparents used to do.

Not just people...if you read the articles like this it's young to middle aged men. They are just more aggressive, and more likely to physically express how they feel. They need better, healthier outlets and the help they need...and it needs to be taken more seriously.

Back in the 60s, the so called experts decided that guilt was a bad emotion. They also said that kids are tough and can rebound from almost anything. Then started the graphic violence and sex everywhere. Now people wonder why there has been a major decrease in morals and values. Im not religious, but I guess you do reap what you sow.

So does everyone still think Drew Peterson is the most evil person out there. Not by a long shot.

Just wondering where all those people are demanding congress we ban all these deadly knives?? How different people's attitudes would be if these offenders used firearms. These are perfect examples that banning a tool will not stop senseless killings.

Ram A Thorn..was your whole speech really necessary? And you accuse of slowing down after a tragic accident? Why would you even day something like that? You seem to be the one that wants the gorey details and would be the one to slow down. .. their comments do not suggest that. .. but yours do. We are all entitled to our opinions. .. let's all do it respectfully as we all live in this town. And in my OPINION. ..I have noticed as of late that the writing style of these articles have changed. They are not professionally written and in no way compare to the well respected newspapers.

Brutal beatings, murderers, HANG THEM!!! This wll stop over flow in jails & make these guys think twice before they kill someone. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. I rest my case.

Once upon a time we had families - mother, father, and a couple kids. Today 70% of the kids in Chicago are born to single mothers and multiple (biological) fathers. The Democrats' agenda is a nanny-state that replaces the nuclear family. Only thing is, that has not, and will not work. No parenting results in each generation becoming more and more 'out of control'. But there are no politicians who have the balz to address this, the ROOT CAUSE.

I'm just curious, for those complaining about the graphic nature of the article, who is holding the gun, bat, knife (insert weapon of choice) to your heads and told you, click the link and read or else? It is rather simple, if you do NOT want to read about gory things happening in a neighborhood near you, simply don't click the link.

Lets just all fight

To John Jonas...interesting that you mention "Choices". Just like kids from tinley, orland or every other place making the "Choice" to stick that herione needle in their arms, or shooting up their classrooms.....amazing everyone makes choices..some make better than others....like you Choosing to open your mouth without thinking! See my reply to Mr.Souchak....seems to support your theory that no matter how you look, where you live or what ascribed status you have....people make their own choices....so you might want expand your rant to include skateboarding, mall shopping and Taylor swift listeners.

Blaa blaa blaa.didn't want to be left out of the big debate.

I think what Ernie meant was the single mother whose children all have different baby daddies. You don't need to be a doc to get that. I don't see what is offensive about the article- no different than the TV show or movies. You don't like it don't watch it or read it. I think the break down of the family and parents not knowing how to parent is the underlying issues. I see it all the time: parents out drinking and partying with their kids watching then wonder why they have messed up kids. More research goes into entertainment then parenting. You get what you put in and it's not about money or toys.
Children are hard work and they require love, discipline and attention 24/7 for about 22 years.
Some one wants to kill they will find a way- so leave guns/ knives alone. These have their purpose in life.
The patch: you don't like it leave. If you expect prize winning jouralism you're delusional. It's fun to read other peoples opinions but leave it at that- some of you are really in need of sedatives.

The thing that IS a common denominator to all of this...to all of US (for the most part), is that one parent or two or four, clearly the PARENTS are FAILING to PARENT these kids. None of us, no child, EVER asked to be born...it is a responsiblity of the parents, the supposed adults that brought them into the world, to do better by them.
In THIS context it is violence, but it is all over, in everything. Schooling, manners, the enviroment, job choice, foreign and domestic political policy...We are not engaged voters, we are not smart about who we place in charge of our collective destinies. We are worried about the next gadget instead of taking our kids to the park. We don't demand better from businesses we give our money. WalMart sells poisonous painted garbage from China and we buy it to save a couple of cents even if it makes our kids sick or costs us more in the long run.
The system is broken, but guess what? We built the system, and we feed it everyday. These nutjobs didn't spring whole from a mold someplace, they didn't get beamed down from someplace else that we can blame. They are all somebody's kids, OUR kids...Nobody is responsible more for the breakdwon in society than US.
We allowed COMPANIES to be called PEOPLE. We allowed unfunded wars to impoverish our nation. We let those kids watch those horrible shows. We build other nations from almost scratch but not our own schools, roads or bridges? When do we call ourselves out for the job WE haven't done?

I was just wondering how they know that he "choked his mother, stabbed her so hard with one knife the blade bent, plunged a second knife into her repeatedly and then used a baseball bat to hammer it into her her body until the handle broke, and finally dropped her in the Des Plaines River", when they have not recovered her body. I mean, did he confess to all that or was there a witness to this crime?

Well said! I am so tired of being surround by parents that care about looking good, playing hard and these children always take a backseat to their self indulgence. They think putting them in sports 5 days a week, buying expensive electronics and placing their kids in front of violent games and video games shows their love for their children. It only frees up time so they can be ignored. We have broken the system and there are not enough us to fix it because our peers are busy being self absorbed.

*I DUNNO - sure sounds to this old lady that the "gangsters/mobs/mafia/'families' " of the 20s & 30s could take a few lessons from today's generation when it comes to brutality and violence! *Elliot Ness where are you?

I think people who grew up listening to heavy metal and the message it sends are prone to do this kind of thing. Usually less educated folks too.

Hi! I would like to say people should learn how to tip!! Waitresses get a paycheck of around 100 for TWO weeks!!! If you cants afford to tip decent...go to McDonald's!!! People who think it is ok to come out..leave 1,2 or 3 dollars make to so sick!!! And Also if you go out and sit in a servers section for hours..they could have had multiple tables being sat there so u should tip accordingly...go to Starbucks if u want to sit and talk for hours on end! It is very rude and people either don't get it or just don't care. Believe me though... If your cheap....your always remembered so dont expect good service much less good food ;) 20% is not okay if your there for hours...or if your bill is $8... Ignorance I tell you!!!!

This is the funniest "comments" section I've seen in a long time!!!

Apparently, the editiorial staff is on spring break, because the lead paragraph came from the Rupert Murdoch school of journalism. If there was a body, would you have printed it too? Disgusting detail. Reporter need to use better judgement on how much detail a reader needs to know about a murder.

Well Francis, too bad you feel the way you do. Your obviously not a gun owner! The biggest problem I feel is, parents need to be parents and take responsibility.

The Patch is worse than the Enquirer! Murder, drugs, sex, abuse, neglect and cruelty sells. What a shame. See ya, Patch!!! Your writers and their stories are pathetic. Is it just the New Lenox Patch, or are they all like this? Journalism at it's worst. What happened to the respectable ones?

Very well said Homewood coach and Isn't life grand!

In all reality, we live in a violent society.

Hello out there. Would somebody please hurry and remove Caryn from the list!!! I recently joined the Patch not only to read these stories but I can now read comments and make comments as well. Thorn is entitled to his comments just like the rest of us. I'm sure the reporter in this story had to get these details from the police.
i don't think the police are making any of this up either. As far as the punk that did this to his mother, it's just too bad we still don't have the death penalty.
my heart gos out to her and the suffering she went through at the hands of her own son.

He deserves to burn in "you know where". Pattyann

Since I'm new at this, can anybody please tell me why the comments I made a minute ago have a dull colored "delete" in the right hand corner? Is it something I did? Thanks. Pattyann

Its does that to every1

Its says reject

She know she still going to be reading patch

Stop the blame game. The gang bangers have no regard for life...your life. I'll bet they value theirs however. So, death penalty in the electric chair and show it on TV. Maybe the consequences of their actions will have some rethinking what they do and what happens when caught. Punishment seems to work best!

Gang banging is not the only reason. Im sure those four white kids that killed their two black friends wasn't gang banging

TO ALL THE COMMENTS, Well everytime we turn on TV there is another death in CHICAGO AREA Whats the problem.. Now,they will be closing schools so what happens then to those children... It's happening all over the world VIOLENCE!!!!!
I happen to like reading the Patch It keeps me posted on the Daily Happenings.. = }

As long as America is forced to remain CIVILIZED BY THE WAY CRIMINALS GET PUNISHED by the panty waste parasitic politicians who create the laws, DO NOT EXPECT TO SEE ANY MAJOR DECLINE IN CRIME...PERIOD!

this site started out as a community information spot..so quickly deteriorated
now..look at the right side of this page..
murder..kidnapping ..assault..beatings..killers....wait a few years til the youth of today realize they have nothing else and we get robbed and mugged daily just for a loaf of bread
so long patch, dont need to read about illiterate mothers, no daddys and the scum of society
Butch...its all yours!

Music and movies do not cause people to become violent.

Karen, apparently only semi intelligent people know that! Everyone else just needs something or someone to blame. Some of you really crack me up, this crap is happening in your own backyards, but OH NO, I DON"T WANT TO READ THIS, please only write about the sunshine and roses you can blow up my butt! Let me ask again, who in the world is threatening you to click the link and read the articles that are so disgusting???

Music and movies do play a big part in violents when u got weak minded people

People come on here and call each other horrible names, say horrible things, etc. you are what's wrong with the world today. Teach by example.

I just deleted some comments above that either attacked an individual or violated Patch policy on vulgarity.
Ann

Yu may have put aside to the back of your mind and claused "its not our fault" there is a single mother here. You "Mom" are at fault for all of this!!!

Get use to the violance, this is the new norm in the Obama economy. People that dont earn a living for themselves do not have respect for themselves or others, even their parents.

Weapons, music, movies, etc. are not the problem. It is the people -- we all know that deep down. Let's stop blaming outside forces. If we continue to create a society where people don't have to work and their children and grandchildren don't have to work or constructively contribute to society, then we are creating a people that have no self worth no value for life whatsoever. So in order to make themselves feel important or at least feel as if they have a "face" in society then they have to make a name for themselves by committing crimes or striking fear into the hearts of their neighbors. And what's the down side? The odds of getting caught are low and if caught, the odds of actually being tried and convicted border on nil. And if all of that happened, the odds of actually serving time in prison are even more remote. Today, a person that actually makes it to prison has committed a hundred more offenses than the one they are serving time for. Take this a step further, once in prison the offender is simply catching up with old buddies, forming new alliances, getting all their medical issues taken care of, getting their teeth fixed, getting a high school diploma, getting trained for some outside job, learning a skill, getting counseling, etc, etc, all at the taxpayer's expense - the same taxpayers who were the victims of the 100 crimes in the first place!!!!!

The "Obama Economy"? Isn't existing homes sales the highest they've been in years? The stock market is booming. The reason the housing market took the dive it did was over inflating the value of homes for years, giving anyone with a pulse a mortgage regardless of affordability. If you didn't think the housing market would tank, then you were living in a dreamland. Anyone with common sense would have seen that coming.

We live in a new society where no one has empathy for other human beings. It doesn't matter who is President, that falls on you and you alone.

Obama Economy: ENERGY PRICES - It’s no accident that our energy prices are skyrocketing. The reckless policies and agendas pushed by the Obama administration are costing Americans billions of dollars. UNEMPLOYMENT - obs are being lost on a daily basis. Families are being harmed. Millions of Americans have simply given up looking for work. Obama has pushed our small business owners to the brink by raising taxes, kowtowing to union interests, and forcing government mandates on hard-working Americans. The only way our country will return to prosperity is by reducing taxes, repealing ObamaCare, and getting government out of the way. OBAMACARE - Obama and the Democrats in Congress single-handedly passed the most devastating legislation to small businesses in the history of this country by voting for ObamaCare. Government mandates and higher taxes have left business owners scared to hire additional employees or to expand and grow their companies. Obama makes no apologies for this job killing law, which is no surprise since he has never held or created a private sector job. SPENDING - The federal debt is over 16 trillion dollars and counting. That is roughly $55,000 per every American citizen. With the debt increasing by almost 5 billion dollars per day and a budget deficit of 1.3 trillion dollars, Obama’s spend first and ask questions later attitude is bankrupting America and devaluing the dollar.

Karen,
Thay dosent fit their argument.

Francis
I didnt bring metal into it as well. I was mocking the whole thought that there should be a connection of rap music and violence. My mocking skills apparently need some help. I mentioned rap music because i figured the "white" music would be defended. I apologize for not being clear enough and offending any heavy metal fans.

Thansk Loren for explaining the delete option to me. I really appreciate it. I won't delete any of this information on the Patch. I want all the details. Ernie is correct; "HANG THEM". These punks are so protected by the system. They get a bed in jail, 3 meals a day, TV, computers, heathcare and not 1 but 2 public .defenders paid for by "US", the taxpayers. Ernie is also correct about the many many single mothers out there with all different fathers. This is carelessness and the life they chose to live. Dave is also correct when he wrote that parents are failing. I'll tell you why; so many of them don't care. They are usually on welfare and everything is handed to them on a silver "WELFARE PLATTER" However, you shoot one of the their gang banger kids, they run out to get a lawyer to cry police brutality. The police are doing the best they can with the scum that have moved into our once beautiful suburbs. Governor Quinn should be voted out of office for taking the death penalty off the table. How dare he put our police officers in harms way???. By the way, did Caryn get deleted yet? If she feels the Patch is too graphic, then go away. As far as her saying that kids read the Patch, then monitor the stories first. Be a parent and do your job. It's as simple as that. Stop whinning and take control. Pattyann.

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If a police officer commits a crime and gets caught they automatically look into his arrest's just to see if he was corrupt or dishonest there as well IE:John Burge . That being said when the governor was convicted shouldn't they have turned over his stupid decision to stop the death penalty? I think we should have some say in whether or not there is a death penalty in the state and not just leave it up to some corrupt politician to make the decision for us