True, but that's all. Until facts are laid bare we can't go accusing either side.

What does that have anything to do with this story?

Juvenal~ The family is not looking for disclosure they are suing the HPD for retribution of the death of their son. With this law suit I doubt seriously if HPD will make a statement anytime soon.

probably before death was announced ... smh

It's amusing how you have all the facts and haven't participated in any part of this investigation. Apparently in your eyes if the police are involved it's guilty until proven innocent. The travesty Mr. Revolver is that ignorance of your magnitude exists in todays society

Jake ---> This was a sarcastic remark

Stress and choices has nothing to do with it at this point. Jake was right about the "guilty until proven innocent" perspective - that's wrong.

You're a source in what way?

Hardeeharhar... soooo funny, so witty... we need more citizens like you!

Sorry, but that's not only a distubing logic, it's flat out anti-American. Sounds like you'd appreciate living in a police state, after all, what do you have to fear from 20-something soldiers roaming the streets with fully automatic assault rifles, asking for papers and purpose, who are just there to stop people from doing bad things? Oh, and way to accuse a mother, who just lost her son, of being a murder profiteer. Time to re-evaluate your outlook, there, buddy.

I like Tobias Cichon. He shows that we live in a country where anybody can voice their opinion no matter how dumb it is. True freedom of speech. I get what you are saying Ernie. And I agree with you. Having a trained professional show up to my door when I need help is not establishing a police state.

Look, Chester, calling the cops and appreciating that security is one thing; saying that you have no need to fear cops when our society is riddled with stories of unarmed citizens being killed by police, when we had numerous stories of cops invading the wrong house and killing the family pet last year, when abuse of power is part of the human condition, that's disturbing. Saying that you need not fear security measures unless you are a threat to security is the kind of slippery slope we've been plummeting down since 9/11. Take your pathetic insults and try using that creative energy to understand why Benjamin Franklin once said, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
We do not have facts on this case and if you look at all my comments, they reflect that we cannot accuse without them. However, the idea that we should just bend over and suggest that the police must always be right because you have nothing to fear unless you're an aggressor, IS equivalent to saying you're ok with a police state because you don't do anything wrong.

I agree with Ernie. Expecting that the people in your neighborhood act respectfully and expecting that the police will get involved if they need to is not condoning a "police state."

Southside - That's not at all what Ernie said. Let me quote: "If you aren't doing something wrong, you have nothing to fear from the police." Read my response above as to why this is a problematic attitude.

It's pretty much on target, Tobias. If you're not doing something wrong then you have nothing to fear from the police. The police are not going to knock on your door or pull you over in traffic if you are not doing anything wrong. The police get involved when they need to... when someone is doing something against the law. It's not like we live in Arizona, where if you have a shade of skin any darker than a young peach you get pulled over and asked for "papers." We live in a blue state and a relatively diverse area (H-F) where the police get involved only if necessary.

Hey Southside - I did a bit of research on Arizona while all of that SB1070 crap was going on. The Governor asked for and received from the legislature very strict language making it illegal for the police to engage citizens based on appearance/color of skin. I guess CNN/NPR forgot to report that.

Mr. Revolver, it happens.

creating havic in Chicago wasn't enough...now the dramas' moving to the suburbs... @Ernie...you hit it on the nail!

Funny.

JD, sorry you can't read......FLOSSMOOR IS NOT HOMEWOOD!!!!!! Homewood is loaded with trash

Obviously the very fact that the "facts are not out" as you put it justifies the suit itself. What is she supposed to do, sit around while the investigation to continues and wait for them to get their story together. No, she has received legal representation that specializes in erradicating injustice out of police departments such as this one. Referencing state law and the IVC supports the suit as well because there is no mentioning this officer "feared for his life because of....". The Use of Force pendelum clearly defines the level of force necessary in various situations, and being that this municipality did not come out and "immediately defend the actions of their officer" supports the fact of civil liability more than it doesnt. If you and the residents of Homewood dont want your tax dollars to go up, this police department needs diversity training, and not some monthly sit in front of the computer scantron form on cultural sensitivity. The demographics in the south suburbs are changing, but the demographics of leadership in these communities remains a mirror image of the 1960's. One African American Police Officer, and no other minority leadership in any other entity within Homewood. This is the bigger problem that people want to turn a naked eye to, and this very problem will cost these communities in the long run......