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Homewood Man Shares Account of Police Raid

Eric Stevens and cousin Henry Dondle give their accounts of this morning, when Homewood Police raided their home.

 
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The front door was completely knocked off its hinges during the raid.

Commotion on the 1500 block of Terrace Ave earlier today has community members wondering why the block was teeming with an elaborate display of law enforcement officers and vehicles.

Eric Stevens and cousin Henry Dondle, both longtime Homewood residents, woke this morning along with many of their neighbors to the sound of explosions and shattering glass.

It wasn’t long before scores of officers clad in military fatigues and brandishing assault rifles ordered Stevens and Dondle to the ground where they were restrained, according to Stevens.

Now, more than 10 hours later, bits of shattered glass lay strewn about the living room and outside perimeter of the residence that Stevens shares with his 74-year-old father. The front door is splintered and at least 17 windows were broken. Heat from the flash grenades left char marks on the walls and burned through a hanging curtain. Stevens's father, a retired Chicago police officer, was returning home from security duty when the event unfolded.

“It looks like a terrorist attack on my house,” Stevens said.

Dondle said police confiscated 20 grams of marijuana and several water pipes. He claims they had a gathering the night before and that the marijuana was for recreational use.

Stevens said police presented him with a search warrant immediately upon restraining him. The warrant listed the following as grounds for the police action:

Cannabis and any and all instruments, articles and things used in the manufacture, distribution and possession of cannabis to wit: cannabis also articles that establish proof of residency, monies and records pertaining to drug sales.

The men were taken to the Homewood Police Department. Stevens was charged with misdemeanor possession of paraphernalia and Dondle was charged with misdemeanor possession of marijuana, according to Dondle.

Both men said this is the third time their house has been raided via forced entry, but neither of the prior two raids lead to criminal conviction. Stevens said the police have historically attributed the raids to complaints from the neighbors. While he admits a poor relationship with one neighbor in particular, he says many more have been coming by with an open mind in attempt to understand what happened.

“Another false alarm,” Dondle said. 

Police have yet to comment on the raid, but a press release is in the works, according to a secretary at the station.

Related Topics: Blotter, Crime, Home Invasion, Marijuana, Police Reports, and raid
Do you think the police are justified in their actions? Tell us in the comments.

Joel

6:43 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I was expecting a little more than 15 grams of weed. Not exactly a supplier in my estimation.

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Linda Tyson

6:44 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I don't know the whole story, but on its face the HW police appear to have used unwarranted excessive force.

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WA Mama

7:02 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

First glance looks like over reaction, but Dondle's "another false alarm" comment is also off the mark - Broke. The. Law. Pretty cut and dried stuff, but possibly not deserving of 17 broken windows.

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Marty Woods

9:42 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

we all. break. the. law. not only is this not deserving of 17 broken windows, it's not even deserving of a knock on the door. unless the party was too loud and disturbing the neighbors.
we were just threatened with $1000 a day fines for cracks in the driveway of our rental property... I have no doubt about what would happen if this nonsense wasn't taken care of by us.

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steve ahmann

2:49 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Some complete idiot says in the comments ont his article that 'they broke the law'. The biggest thing that the majority of americans do not understand is that the reason why we have a court system is so theat people can challenge the validity of unconstituional laws like this one in court. I have argued marijuana (and other unconstitutional issues in court before with success ,and so have others). If we all just say that is ok for the police to beome judge, jury, and executioner like this then there is no real legal process in this country. Marijuana is a bogus charge and these men should have the opportuinity to argue this in a court of law....the police have taken the law into their own hands. If it is an unjust law it is your CIVIL responsibility to break that law. That is what this country is about ...it is not about taking orders from a bunch of filthy greedy attorneys who make plants illegal cuz it is profitable.

Cheryl Sailor

9:44 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

This is the militarization of police action via the NDAA and other police state laws. Under the NDAA, the police and/or military can do this for NO or ANY reason, and disappear the citizens for any amount of time without charges, family notification, or access to a lawyer. I am pro-police having had family members as police officers, but am not for this practice on their part, to condition us, make us used to this behavior.

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Legalize Pot

9:25 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Agree!! My Dad was a State Trooper, & I respect the law, but this was OVER-KILL! The PD should pay for the damage they did to this home! (like that would ever happen!) :(

Paul Hrechko

9:47 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I am sure there is more to this story than is being told by either side. Was this just the Homewood Police or with DEA, ATF, or Cook Count Sherriffs? If Homewood Police acted alone I would be concerned that this could not have been handled in a different manner. Flash bang grenades really was this necessary and yes this comment is from a 40 year resident of Homewood.

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:26 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Paul, I am sure Homewood did not go in this along. It had to be the South Suburban Special Response Unit which is comprised with several suburban agencies including Cook County Sheriff's Police.

JP

9:50 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

The Back Story in Need -- to get a good picture of this situation - we need answers to: What are the ages of these two boys? How are they making money now? Have they ever been involved in any type of undercover drug bust in the past? and finally have there been any "Known" drug dealers ever stopping by the house? These answers combined - will provide a valid understanding of this raid.

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WA Mama

7:53 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I agree, JP. If Stevens's father is 74 y.o., then he himself has to at least be in his late 30s. What are two grown men doing having friends over and getting high while the 74 y.o. is at work overnight? Lots of questions before we can judge the police dept.'s reaction.

Juvenal

10:25 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

Three adult men, two "cousins" living in a house in the suburb? That's weird, another example of the pathologies of ghetto life settling in to the suburbs

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Paul Hrechko

11:30 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

I presume your comment was in jest. If not, please expound.

John Kearns

10:52 pm on Tuesday, January 10, 2012

On the surface, This looks like overkill. doing hundreds if not thousands of dollars in damage for some marijauna. The owner himself a former police officer. Is this retribution because they didn't get them the last two times. Where is the American civil liberties union on this one?

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Duncan

1:06 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

So...HW Police decides to use forceful entry--breaking windows and a door--for weed. We have our priorities mixed up, now do we?

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B

1:59 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Why don't we let the Homewood Police do their job ? So to understand, police serve a warrant, obtained through probable cause and signed by a judge, break a few windows , find 15 grams of weed and they're the bad guys?? Selling,buying or smoking weed is illegal. Thank god those military, camoflage wearing , flash bang throwing men amd women are there!!! And the ACLU is busy, still working on that OJ thing... Thanks for a job well done Homewood Police !!!

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Jennifer

4:58 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Why use the ridiculous amount of force and resources when they could have easily knocked on the door, broken it down, and then searched. No one's upset they did their job, but it surely seems like a waste of resources.

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:29 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

I am sure there is more to this. How many of you would prefer letting a bunch of losers party at their senior parents home which shows no respect and wreak havoc in the neighborhood.

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Legalize Pot

9:33 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

@ Jennifer, My thoughts exactly! The PD must have really gotten their rocks off on this one.

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Jason Keyes

10:30 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

How do you know the warrant was justified by probable cause?

Judges aren't held accountable for the warrants they sign. It's foolish to accept that the warrant was valid until you see the application for it.

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C.Rob

7:55 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I'm assuming after this comment, you are a "perfect citizen." I'm also assuming that when you speed (even 1 mile over) you agree that an officer should have the right to suspend your liscense and destroy your car. This was NoT a job well done. The HOMEWOOD FLOSSMOOR police should've done more investigating before they decided to act.

Michael macdonald

6:47 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Good job Homewood Police !!!! Keep up the good work

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C.Rob

8:00 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Good job? Destroying someone's home is a good job? Seriously? That's like destroying your car for driving 1 mile over the speed limit? Speeding causes more deaths then marajuana. Not justifying either or, just making things relative.

tom haggerty

7:02 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Agreed Mike,,,,Great job Homewood Police!!!

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Heatha P Velvet

7:43 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I live around the corner from the house that was raided and woke up out of a sound sleep thinking that I was having a heart attack. This is the THIRD time the house was raided and each time it gets worse. What are they going to do next, actually bomb the house? The warrant(which you can see a picture of in the story) actually states that all they were going in for was marijauna. The guys were released again that morning. To me this is an extreme abuse of power!

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Michael macdonald

7:52 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

For anyone questioning the tactics used by the Police in this incident I would like to inform you on a very similar incident that occurred last week in Salt Lake City Utah. Police Offices on a drug task force were attempting to serve a search warrant on a home in a quiet residential neighborhood. The homeowners were suspected to be growing marijuana. The neighbors said they hadn't noticed any unusual activities at the house. During the raid the Police were met with gunfire. One Police Officer was killed and five others were wounded before the gunman was taken into custody alive. This is just one example of how the Police never know what they will incounter when they enter a house. They will, and should, take all precautions necessary to insure their safety. The fallen Police Officer left behind a wife and two small children. A very tragic ending to an event very similar to the incident in Homewood.
Maybe after the third raid on their house the Homewood homeowners will get the message.

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:32 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Thank you Michael, Many dont realize what can actually happen in the " quiet neighborhoods", you never know what is on the other side of the door. Coming from a 20 year police veteran. Its about protecting the Neighbors and Officers.

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Marty Woods

9:50 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

so, you're actually suggesting that the cops getting shot busting in someone's door over some minor (misdemeanor) marijuana offense is justification to come in with even greater force?!!
why not knock on the door and serve the warrant?
the Dept of Education has SWAT teams now. I hope you're not lying on your pell grant application. Fish and Game has SWAT. Better hide those undocumented orchids- wait, that's why they have SWAT!

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Chris Carlton

10:24 am on Friday, January 20, 2012

"met with gunfire"
Like they anyone coming in my house without my permission will be. I'm not breaking the law, and I won't be either, when I shoot someones stupid ass for crossing my threshold. Police uniform or not, the law says, when they come into your home you can shoot their ass! The was just a wonderful story about a Mom protecting her baby by doing just that.

Steve Burke

10:25 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Another question might be is why does Patch have the exclusive on this and the Star's headline is "Meet Miss Illinois USA: Flossmoor’s Ashley Hooks"? Good work, Ryan.

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:34 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Most of the Patch writers are real neighborhood journalist and have the pulse of their community. I have been on calls including the Orland Park Mall shooting and run into patch writers. They are not sitting in a office waiting for a phone to ring, they are already there. Great work to them all.

Homewood Jim

11:03 am on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I cast my vote for the Homewood Police. They have a good, if not great, record of service to the people of Homewood. If you are obeying the law you have nothing to worry about. I'm sure when all the facts are known, it will become clear that these people were violating the law, and the police were doing what they get paid to do.

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Mike

12:05 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

I live in the same neighborhood as this house, and cars and people are constantly coming and going - less in the morning, but especially at night. We don't know what sort of evidence or tip the police had. If they had a tip that the folks in this house had weapons, this was probably the safest approach to entering the house - using a sound blast like this to keep everyone off balance until they can secure the house. This is not a huge amount of marijuana. But dealers are very careful not to keep too much around so that if they are caught somehow the amount will not justify dealing charges. We don't know enough about the situation. But, calling this "another false alarm" is silly, since this time the police did actually find some marijuana! These two guys need to provide an answer as to why the police are so interested in that house. All the neighbors in this neighborhood that I know want this house not to be involved in illegal activities (and suspect, given what we are seeing constantly that this is happening) and the police obviously share in this judgment. Maybe the neighborhood should have a block party and these guys can give an account of why there is so much activity around their house? Or, maybe they could give an account to Ryan? That marijuana was found there, in combination with the kinds of activities the residents of this neighborhood have witnessed, tells me that something fishy is going on!

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:37 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Homewood should establish a Nuisance Ordinance.

Cfoam

12:09 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

This seems more like a training exercise. Let's hope there is more to the story than what is reported here to justify this excessive force. What is the chance the HPD will get sued over this matter? I would consider going after a burglary ring more important than a few grams of pot for recreational use. This is overkill!

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JJ

10:54 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Seems like a training exercise? Are you serious? Explain how this is a training exercise! Police did what they had to do to root out a drug dealer known for having weapons and you think it was a training exercise?

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Chris Carlton

10:29 am on Friday, January 20, 2012

so JJ if I have weed in my house, and weapons I deserve this????
America?? like 60% of single men in the South are in big trouble. I've had a gun since I was 7. Smoked since 15. Come and get me ya Bastards!

marcus

12:36 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Everyone may have an opinion on this situation....and though they are all valued,i would like to shed a bit of light to this. This was all done to discourage a young man from apart being of the Homewood community..None of the men that were captured have a criminal background, nore a violent history. Its kind of like a raid for a speeding ticket...i mean sure speeding is against the law. But is that an offense so great that it deserves neighborhood humiliatio n and over $ 7,000 in damages... 11 broken windows and a dismantled door is an eye sore to the whole community...it effects everyones property value...all over a misdemenor amount of cannibis.

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C.Rob

8:06 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY!!!!!!!! You're exactly right!

marcus

12:42 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Stevens is a 22 yr old college student. And Dondle is a 22 yr old song write for a major record lable @jp

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Homewood Jim

12:47 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

"None of the men that were captured have a criminal background, nore a violent history."
And you would know this how??????? Because they told you they didn't? Because you have access to the entire database of criminal activity? Because you have a crystal ball? We would all like to know the source of your omniscience. Please enlighten us.

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Legalize Pot

9:44 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Oh so right, Homewood Jim! Maybe they have a psychic on the force. Or acting on pure adrenalin.

marcus

1:05 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Bcuz Im Henry Dondle...i have never ever been to jail... i went to churchill elementry, James Hart jr High, and Homewood Flossmore high school.i am apart of the homewood community...i help with the poles during elections. I shovel my whole block when it snows...i use to babysit kids in the community....sure i have my flaws. I am not saying im perfect. But i am not a criminal.

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marcus

1:09 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

The traffic is simply a case of popular guys..with friends that drive.. sure we hang out but there is never any violence that takes place there...just give us a chance. I would be more than willing to meet with the neighborhood.

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Mike

1:17 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Hi Henry - you are brave for revealing your identity - you can see why folks are nervous, right? Marijuana was found. Traffic coming and going. The police have done this three times, which makes people think that their suspicions about the all the activity is justified. Why do you think that the police are targeting your house (your cousin's house?)?

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Cfoam

2:59 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Where is the HPD well thought out press release regarding this action? I guess they have to run it through a few attorneys first... Inquiring minds want to know how this level of force is justified. Hey Henry, if it really is you - how would we know? I don't trust anyone anymore sad to say - it's the world we live in. Maybe you should make your own press release to the media about this unwarrented Police action if it really is unwarrented? I think there are people who would believe your side of the story. And yes, no one is perfect some are just better than others at not getting caught. It might be time to start hanging more at your friends place you must have a neighbor with a vendetta...

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Concerned

3:08 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Concerned neighbor
I've seen many people coming & going from this property at all hours..Sometimes people park a block away at 3 in the morning, walk to the Terrace House then return to their car a short time later as they don't want their car to be seen if front of the house ..I believe the judge that issued the search warrant must have had probable cause and I support Homewood Police...99% of Homewood citizens are law abiding citizens and want a safe place to live....There is no place in Homewood for drug houses!!!

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wake up

3:37 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Concerned, you need to wake up. I'm certain this isn't the only house in the terrace neighborhood selling drugs. (If these guys are, in fact, selling drugs). And half the kids in homewood probably have misdemeanor amounts of pot somewhere in their house. It's sad, but true. The Homewood Police may be awesome, but they can't blow up every house with a little pot in it or it would look like a war zone.

Mike

3:26 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

@Cfoam - this is not just about one neighbor with a vendetta - there is lots of strange stuff going on at that house, which many, many, many neighbors recognize - the neighborhood is worried that this is a place where drug dealing happens, and obviously the police think that is possibly the case too - if there is drug dealing going on, what would you want the police to do instead of what they did?

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Cfoam

12:38 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

If these guys were dealing drugs they would have more than 20 grams of pot. If they had a cash of weapons or killer guard dogs we would have seen it on the warrent or in the police statement. If these guys were selling something like crack or meth mIaybe I could see it.
Yes, it does seem to be an issue based on the number of posts here but we don't have all the facts I'm sure. I am just not convinced the exessive force and property damage was the best option nor do I like the fact the HPD hasn't admitted to anything other than "executing a warrent". Why not put a tail on them to catch them in the act? Pull over their visitors when they leave. I think you would see an immeadiate reduction in traffic. I'm sure the neighbors wouldn't mind a little extra police presence in the neighborhood - the job is also to protect and serve right? I think the costs might be a little less too.

Heatha P Velvet

4:51 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

The chief of police called me back today and said that they're going to schedule a neighborhood meeting about the incident. I hope you'll go too Henry Dondle.

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Mike

5:03 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Great, that will help tremendously!

B

6:07 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Hey Henry, quit selling weed DA.. Oh yea, u didn't tell everyone about the stolen car the police found in tour garage or the previous times you and your "cousin" sold weed to undercover officers. Your a P.O.S.. Get a job an help support your town and people in general. And of course your stand up retired chicago dad must have forgot about the mortgage due, house is in foreclosure. Do us all a favor an leave before the Sheriff's through your crap on the lawn. Wake up Hippies, look around you, homewood is an island of promise compared to other towns, partly thanks to the HPD. What a great role model dad must have been....

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C.Rob

8:21 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I love judgmental people.SOOO...the police should your car when you speed, or destroy your house when you're on the porch with a beer, or download illegal music. Oh, i'm sorry I forgot, You're PERFECT!

B

6:13 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Dear Hippies, please put your number on the do not respond list at the police department. Wouldn't want those barbarians coming to your house when you have a problem... great reporting ryan... Start with the good guys next time !!!

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

6:28 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Perhaps you missed this detail, but we have made numerous attempts to get comments from the Homewood Police Department. As of right now, we've been told to expect a press release by Friday.

This isn't a matter of taking sides or judging character. It's a question of necessity and ethics. I'm simply reporting on the information that's available to me as accurately as possible.

marcus

6:37 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

B...i appr u as well.. no one here used profanity...P.o.s im guessing means piece of shit... i have been called names my whole life..never gets old i will see you all at the meeting....once again i have no criminal background.. never in my life been in a stolen car

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:47 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Marcus/B You keep repeating about your NO Criminal background. Werent you charged with a misdemeanor now? You also are helping keep a house of Nuisance in a quiet neighborhood. You seem to give off this "I am not a bad guy type in writing", but you dont respect that house or your neighbors.

B

9:20 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Funny how you avoided the comment.. The police reports state there was a stolen car in the garage ? Not true ? Maybe ryan can FOIA your address and just see how many drug calls have been there . Didn't say you were in it, just pointing out another example of the problems that go hand in hand with illegal drugs..since your such a great kid, maybe you should get away from that enviroment before you get arrested... Oops too late. So i guess that means you do have a criminal record.. You musta forgot

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:49 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

B, he forgot in DARE class about Marijuana kills brain cells, So yea he FORGOT.

Mr Who

10:56 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Hey I just want to point out that 20 grams of weed that Henry says is what was found is quite a lot of weed for personal use. Either way it is a crime to posess that weed. In speaking with people from neighborhood it seems a lot of activity for a single family residence including a raid by US Marshals looking for a fugitive. Real nice boys, yea that show just ome young popular guys kicking it no crine here..yea right. Seems your activities have lead to numerous complainants to police fom multiple residences. The HPD seems to have conducted a investigation which showed enough probhible cause to show a States Attorney and a Judge to issue a warrant. Third time and getting worse? I don't blame the police for taking all the precautions they need to to ensure they have the upper hand. Want it to stop then quit selling weed from the house, Duh!!!

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Lisa Shipman

10:12 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

hey i just want to point out that 20 grams of weed is NOT quite a lot of weed for personal use. just sayin'.....it's less than an ounce and if you were smoking pot medicinally, like a lot of people do, then this really isn't alot of weed. it's probably less than nancy botwin would have sold at just 1 soccer game.20 grams is NOT alot of weed. depending on if you're smoking ditch weed or good weed from cali, it's street worth is roughly $350-$500. again, not alot of weed, certainly not enough to warrant an attack on their house of this magnitude. IMO

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FDragons

4:38 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

As a person who smokes weed everyday, makes a good living, has a beautiful girlfriend, doesn't drink alcohol, and lives in one of the nicer neighborhoods in Chicago; I am getting a massive laugh out of the comments on this article. Even if they were dealing, I've never known a pot dealer who is anything remotely approaching "violent", or prone to violence, or involved in it. It probably sounds so plausible to you suburban people, but let me assure you, that's one of your paranoid suburban fever dreams, and has nothing to do with real life.

20 grams is not a lot of pot. In many states, less than an ounce gets you a ticket. A ticket. In liquor terms, it would be like a handle of liquor. This is a drug with no long term side effects, which is not addictive, is impossible to overdose on, grows like a weed (lol puns...) and needs no pesticides, or processing to become usable. You don't need cartels for this drug, you need like a square foot of soil, anywhere.

Also, there have never been weapons found in that house. Why not just wait until you see the guys leaving, approach them, and serve the warrant? Oh yeah, because it's fun to play army, and police officers feel they can act with impunity against people the community feels are "outsiders". Way to prove them right, and let anyone different than you get treated like Al Qaeda for no good reason. God forbid you actually cared about your own rights.

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C.Rob

8:22 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

As a chemist, 20 grams is not alot of substance. Did it say they were selling? No. Another case of "guilty until proven innocent." I'm so glad you're not their judge, and you're opinion (nor mine) clearly doesnt count.

cRYOgenics

11:16 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

Just because neighbors have complained about smelling marijuana, or parties going on, DOES NOT justify doing what they did. There MUST be facts or evidence supporting their entry into a home the way that THEY entered! Call your attorney!

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Mr Who

11:47 pm on Wednesday, January 11, 2012

@cRYO, the police did have facts and evidence that was presented to a judge who signed a warrant. Guess what further evidence from warrant they found illegal drugs (weed, cannabis, what ever you want to call it). It's a simple thing don't sell dugs from your home or allow others to use your home to sell drugs and this wouldn't happen. It is really that simple. Yes they will need a lawyer because this amount of cannabis is punishable by up to 364 days in jail.

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Heatha P Velvet

7:49 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Why did they have to break 17 windows in this raid? The last 2 raids they didn't break any windows and supposedly were going after a fugitive which sounds like a more dangerous situation than going in for some weed. It seems to me that the only justification for breaking all of those windows is intimidation. Whatever you think of the people who live in the house, they are still human beings who now have to reside in a house with no windows in the middle of winter.

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Homewood Jim

10:09 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

If they didn't have illegal drugs in the house, they would still have windows. Wise up.

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Nextel

10:27 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

I don't care! They should move back to the Ghetto they came from.

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Tabitha Stine

2:43 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

wrong....they did break windows previous times too...just not near this many. The neighborhood knows all about that too.

Mr Who

8:42 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

@velvet. Since no one here has the information the police have on what their investigation has shown but historically forced entry via a search warrant in drug investigations carries a higher risk to entering officers especially at a location where they have entered before. People involved in drug dealing no matter if small time or big time are usually paranoid about ripoffs and attack from other dealers. Not to mention police COMMING back. I think everyone has lost sight of the point. The police conducted a investigation. They either bought drugs or had someone buy drugs from a location numerous times before a search warrant would be issued.this is to show a pattern of behavior. They presented their findings and received the blessing of a judge that the burdon of proff has been meet for a search warrant. They had expertly trained officers SWAT team who conducted a risk assessment and decided the best way to make entry and gain superiority over the occupuints as to prevent injury to anyone and prevent the destruction of evidence. Then after a search they find what? Drugs. It doesn't matter what drug as long as it is illegal. And they found a significant amount to have at one time, 20 grams. If you read police blotters most

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Mr Who

8:43 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

people who are arrested for personal use amounts is 1-5 grams. Look it up on Google each one of those little baggies is around a gram on average. So having 20 grams is a lot. Bottom line we are beating a dead horse here hey had a warrant served it, professionals decided how to accomplish it safely. It is now for the courts to decide not a bunch of arm chair quarterbacks who think they know know more
than the police in how to accomplish their job. I as a resident want them to take it to anyone selling drugs in my community, bringing in criminal element into my neighborhood, as hard as they can. The damage is the price of doing business if your in the illegal drug trade. I don't care if you are just supporting your own habit with it or making a living from it. It is still dealing. It is illegal. End of discussion!

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

8:52 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

MR.WHO, I could not have said it better myself. Heatha, that house is involved with ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, NUISANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ETC. When you go on raids and deal with drug dealers who have dogs, guns, etc you would understand. Also just because it was just weed or nothing much was found the last time means nothing. Those officers went back home to their families afterwards, the next door neighbors on the blocks did not have to endure a shoot out or bullets flying into their windows. The art is Shock and Surprise. Nobody was hurt, Doors and Windows can be repaired. They will just have to use their WEED MONEY to fix it. That is the way it goes in the business. HAZARDS. NO SYMPATHY FOR DRUG DEALERS NO MATTER HOW SMALL OR LARGE.

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FDragons

4:46 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

In many states, less than an ounce (28g) gets you a ticket. A ticket. It's the liquor equivalent of a handle of alcohol, except drinking the handle of alcohol would kill you, whereas the pot would merely make the 1974 Sean Connery movie Zardoz pretty entertaining.

Pot does not invite a "crime element". There is no violence because of pot. It's too easily grown. You don't need a drug cartel, you need a cubic foot of soil, anywhere in the world. It's also worth mentioning that it's less addictive than caffeine, and can't kill you.

21% of people 18-25 smoke pot. That's one in five. You probably know a lot of people who do. We're good people, and it's really confusing to me why you're fine with us being treated like that.

Phillip R Baggs

9:15 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Henry,
You would probably prefer Scarface, but here is a educational video for you to watch. I know you live with your dad, but it is still relevant. Whip up some popcorn and enjoy!

http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_levitt_analyzes_crack_economics.html

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Nextel

10:23 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Shocking...Drugs in Homewood! What is the common trait of the residents? Excessive Force? Really, ring the doorbell? I don't think so... Send a message and move on to the next dealer.

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Christina

10:15 am on Friday, January 13, 2012

Nextel, you just can't help yourself can you? "Common trait?" That's a good question, Nextel, what is the common trait?

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C.Rob

8:32 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

ironically, about a year ago, a few players from the homewood flossmoor baseball team were caught at a party with weed and alcohol. the pictures surfaced. Their punishment? suspended for the first two games...however, they still were afforded the oportunity to travel with the team! do you think this made the media? no. do you think their houses were raided? no! and they aren't from the ghetto. in fact, many of parents are prominent homewood flossmoor residents, homewood flossmoor business owners, and the list continues. ironic? i think not.

Carson Drive Neighbor

11:03 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

These are your neighbors people. This is your neighborhood. We can better address this house than the SWAT team. The kid is a product of HF - grew up in Homewood. Scary! No history of violence. Bring the assault weapons and grenades!!! Walked out of jail after each raid. Send the SWAT team again and really show them!!! To the police state advocates - the cops hate you too. Go ahead, keep thinking that they are your friends and are here to protect you - till they come boot stomping into your narrow little world. The reality is that marijuana is on the path to being decriminalized no matter what the zero tolerance, head in the sand people think. If these guys sold drugs to undercover cops then for god's sake charge them and stop using military tactics in Homewood! This is not the ghetto, this is not some scary neighborhood riddled with violence.

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Nextel

11:28 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Carson, you make some points...However, the amount of marijuanna siezed seemed a bit higher than personal consumption? Not the ghetto? Pull your head out of the sand.

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Homewood Jim

11:42 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

"The reality is that marijuana is on the path to being decriminalized"
So based on an opinion you hold, it's OK to break the law? You aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

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FDragons

4:47 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

@Nextel, not true. I know a lot of people who buy for themselves an ounce at a time (28g).

Heatha P Velvet

11:34 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Still none of you addressed why they had to bust in 17 windows! There was absolutely no reason for that. What if the supposed drug dealers decide to move out before getting the windows fixed? Then we have a house sitting there with no windows, that looks great for the neighborhood. Also, the police obviously found no proof of intent to sell 3 times! If these guys sold drugs to undercover officers, why weren't they arrested then?

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

11:46 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Heatha. I take it these are friends of yours. Broken glass no big real. They should not be a nuisance in the neighborhood. Maybe this is where all the armed robberies and burglaries to homes are coming from. Carson. Do you realize one of the areas biggest drug dealer was caught in a girlfriends house which he paid for and pistol whipped her and a few of her girlfriends bound and gagged etc. This same police team took this clown off the streets of Homewood. So if you don't like police. Call the station and ask to be put on the Do not come by in case of emergency and sign a waiver not to sue.

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FDragons

4:49 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Wow, you suburban people scare EASILY. Good lord, nobody has ever, in the history of the world, been pistol whipped because of pot, particularly not 20g of pot! The suburban circle jerk of fear is powerful indeed.

Heatha P Velvet

11:53 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

No ,they are not friends of mine. I don't even know them. You still haven't answered the question about why they had to break 17 windows. So are these guys geniuses and are outwitting the police each time their house gets raided? I'm saying if they really are drug dealers why has it taken 3 raids and still no proof of dealing?

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JJ

11:34 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Heatha - It was 11 windows and who gives a crap about windows? The concept is to distract and disorient the suspects so the police can get in safely, secure the house, drugs and suspects. Would you rather there be less window breaking but more gun shots fired in a neighborhood?

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Legalize Pot

10:04 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Very good, Heatha P Velvet!!!! @JJ-a lot more than windows being broken!!! Look at the pictures. The PD SHOULD HAVE KNOCKED!!!

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Jason Keyes

10:37 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

They didn't have to blow the windows. They didn't have to raid the house in a violent fashion. They did it anyway, because that's how this War on the American People, aka the War on Drugs is conducted.

The people who support these actions are unamerican.

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Heatha P Velvet

10:07 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

JJ, I really resent being called a criminal, what is wrong with you that you have to resort to name calling when all I'm doing is asking questions? Obviously you're of the mentality- if you're not with us then you're on the side of the terrorists. I live over here and I heard the raid(for the third time) and those flash grenades sound like bombs. The police went in and intentionally broke those windows not to gain entry into the house but to send a message. Again,all they found was not even an ounce of weed and some pipes. If people think a lot of traffic looks bad for a neighborhood, what do they think an abandoned house with no windows looks like for the neighborhood? i know there was a better way to handle the situation. If these guys have bee arrested and charged so many times, why don't they have a parole officer that could have been going t the house and drug testing them?

HW CITIZEN

11:58 am on Thursday, January 12, 2012

They didnt break the windows individually it was from the explosion and heat which caused the windows to break.

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

3:10 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

The windows were intentionally broken by officers.

Marc A. Wiley Sr.

12:01 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Thank you HW. Heatha I'm sure you would rather them just knock on the door and if nobody answer just go away. They are drug dealers. Period.

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Heatha P Velvet

12:03 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

How do you know, and why didn't the windows blow out last time? If that's true, then those noise bombs are a lot more powerful than I thought. Scary!

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Heatha P Velvet

12:09 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

We're all supposed to be innocent in this country til proven guilty, what did they find that shows intent to sell since you're so familiar with the details of this case?

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Carson Drive Neighbor

12:25 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

For the record, I do not advocate drug dealing. If they are dealing drugs then arrest them but do we need the SWAT team for that? I realize that people smoke marijuana - but it doesn't keep me up at night. I prefer that the government stay out of my life. Some people live in fear and need the police to make them feel protected. I choose to protect myself. Besides we live a block away from a private golf course, scary neighborhood huh?

Marc - when you make things up like suggesting that the police have a "Do not come by in case of emergency" list, it undermines everything you have written.

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Big Mama

12:34 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Well it's snowing now - I wonder if Henry is gonna shovel the whole block as he says he does?

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

12:45 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Carson. It was meant to be sarcasm. You stated police are not your friends. Your block is quiet. But what about others who can't handle on their own. It's obvious something is going on . Plus we are not these guys neighbors.

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Mike

12:55 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

@ Carson Drive Neighbor : "These are your neighbors people. This is your neighborhood. We can better address this house than the SWAT team." I think later you are too dismissive of the police and their importance, but this is a very important thought. But I'm not exactly sure the neighborhood is, as it currently stands, able to handle this very well. Better relationships with these two young men might help show them that what they are doing is making the neighborhood less safe, especially for the kids. Now, they may not listen, they may not understand, they may not care, etc. I am not trying to be naive. Thus, the police may have to do their best to help us maintain safety in the neighborhood. And, yes, the police might have used too much force (but most of us, from what I can tell, don't seem to have enough information about the information the police have access to). If you ask me, the neighborhood needs to learn how build itself up as community, so that we have a better sense of each other and thus can more likely prevent things like this from happening (again, I'm not being naive). If these guys really knew that they were making the neighborhood less safe for kids that they cared about, for instance, they might think twice about the kind of drug activity in which they are involved. Our neighborhood needs more structure, so that we can know each other better and, as you say, help each other maintain this neighborhood and community.

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FDragons

5:30 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

My girlfriend and I only smoke in our own home, at night, after our full time jobs. We usually buy an ounce at a time (28g). We do not make our neighborhood less safe for anyone. I would say we are also fairly typical of pot smokers (though those with less money probably buy less at a time -- an ounce costs me $300 btw, and lasts for 3-4 months.

Mike

12:58 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

What I'm trying to say to everybody is this :
Let's identify what is going wrong here, for these guys, for the neighborhood, for the police, etc and then find a way to fix the problem. Obviously there is a problem. Complaining and name-calling is unnecessary and even more damaging. Also, I'm suggesting is that the problem is more than simply about two guys doing stupid things.

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Carson Drive Neighbor

2:22 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

@Mike - Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I imagine that most of us in the neighborhood feel the same way about trying to create some kind of way to respond to a situation like this where the entire neighborhood thinks drug dealing is going on at that house. I hope the chief of police does have a meeting and we all show up - it could start a real dialogue for us in the neighborhood.

Heatha P Velvet

1:01 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

I can see why it would be hard for you, Mr. Wiley to be objective about the actions the police took since your profile states that you are a Cook County police officer. I just think you should try to see that for the average citizen, officers bombing a house 3 times and breaking 17 windows for an ounce of weed seems over the top and can actually make people afraid of the police. I'm hoping at the community meeting that we can resolve some of these issues.

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JJ

11:40 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Heatha - Bombing a house is not the facts of this case, you are trying to vilify the police because obviously you are a criminal as well! Flash Bangs do exactly what their name states, they are bright and loud but thats it. They don't blow out windows and they don't "bomb people houses"! Learn the facts before speaking criminal!

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Jason Keyes

11:11 pm on Monday, January 16, 2012

@JJ: how did a flash bang kill a child in Detroit, then?

Juvenal

1:12 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

If this young man has lived in Homewood his whole life the contempt he seems to show for his neighbors is even more pathetic. I find that young people with full academic courseloads or full time jobs generally don't have the time or energy to host all their friends in a never-ending house party......

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Mike

1:17 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Right: that's the problem. What's the solution?

Heatha P Velvet

1:15 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

I agree wholeheartedly, Mike. One reason I've been so upset is that when I went to the police station to discuss what had happened, immediately the police officer I was trying to talk to had a very nasty attitude. I believe it's my right to question and discuss what is going on in my neighborhood and the officer told me that they would bomb that house as many times as it takes. I just think there's a better way.

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

1:16 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Heatha as Mike stated. Find out at the meeting and ask questions. My position is not from law enforcement one sided. It comes from citizens who have complaints from nuisance homes. And can never find peace. Flashbombs used will shatter Windows. Maybe this will stop whatever activity is causing police to stop on that block. I am very open minded on somethings even I know its some cops who are jerks like everyday people are. You kept asking Why they do that. I don't know like many others don't know what was on the warrant. What information was obtained for this house. Was the amount of drugs low because it was distributed out already. But remember search warrants are very dangerous. And we like to get home to our families at the end of the day also

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Ben

1:21 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Well here is my opinion about the whole subject, and let me repeat just my OPINION. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion right? What I think is going on here is that the homewood police are desperate in trying to catch the people that live in the home for whatever they are being accused of so they finally got fed up and "sent a message" to them by doing what you see in the pictures above to the house. I am not choosing sides because they may or may not be dealing drugs out of this house. Who knows? Maybe they are just good at what they do or maybe the neighbors just dont like the activity thats associated with the household occupants. If they did deal drugs to undercover police officers then they would already be arrested and charged for it but apparently not. Also 20 grams of marijuana is little bit of weed but not enough to be dealing in my opinion. If you do the math 20 X $10 is $200 worth of marijuana the police found in the house. From what I can see in the comments this house normally people over and they might have just been having a "smoke session" with other people. Now thinking back to my high school days (Yes and I graduated from homewood flossmoor high school within the last 5 years) I knew plenty of kids who would smoke marijuana on the regular and would have substantial amounts of marijuana similar to the amount found in this house and YES these kids were white, black, and hispanic from the upper class to the lower class ALL from Homewood and Flossmoor.

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Ben

1:21 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

As for the use of force? That was a little much in my opinion BUT I completely understand that officers have need to protect themselves. If the homewood police really wanted to get these guys they could of easily set up a sting operation but like I said before maybe these guys are good at what they do and the police cant put hard evidence on a case against them and they just wanted to "send a message" or maybe their not doing anything too bad besides smoking marijuana and the neighbors just plain out simply dont like them for what associations they bring. Now with that being said not all police are bad and im sure the police are just trying to do their job as best as possible. I was in a situation with the homewood police detectives where they went to "desperate measures" to try to get me to confess to a crime I simply just did not do all because someone "said" I did it so I can completely understand both sides of this story but this is not to say all of the homewood police are not good people. Basically until hard evidence shows that these people are actually drug dealers then they probably should just be labled the typical pot smokers of homewood.

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Ben

1:32 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Also as for the neighbors of this house this "raid" should probably fix any problems you may have been having with them.

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Carson Drive Neighbor

2:27 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

@Mike - Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I imagine that most of us in the neighborhood feel the same way about trying to create some kind of way to respond to a situation like this where the entire neighborhood thinks drug dealing is going on at that house. I hope the chief of police does have a meeting and we all show up - it could start a real dialogue for us in the neighborhood.

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Linda Tyson

2:48 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Ryan, I was just reviewing the Acceptable Use Policy, and it seems to me there are several comments here that are inappropriate. I urge you to consider deleting those containing content that "is defamatory, abusive, obscene, profane or offensive." I realize those can be subjective terms and you're the editor, but c'mon, some of this has gotten out-of-hand, including, I'm sorry to say, your comment to 'fernando,' whose comments are also out-of-hand. Seems to me there are a few others that fit the Policy section in quotes that may be more subjective, but seriously, I think some authority should be exercised here and some of these comments should at least be reviewed with the Policy in mind. Thank you.

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

3:43 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Thanks for your concern, Linda.

Please know that the aforementioned comments were deleted as soon as they were brought to my attention.

As for "my comment to 'fernando,'" that was not actually a response from me, but rather another person who apparently created an account on Patch using my name (with an incorrectly spelled last name, might I add).

That's been taken care of as well.

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Linda Tyson

4:00 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Reassuring to know Ryan - thanks!

Mr Who

4:39 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Just want to point out a few things they were arrested for the cannabis that was found. Just because they only are small time dealers and only have a little bit of drugs means they can bond out immediately not wait to see a judge. For the comment that the police hate you too is just B.S. I think any reasonable person knows your crazy. The issue at hand seems t o be the tactics used. Well unless you are willing to do it differently then shut up and let the police do their job. I will point out again they did have evidence and presented it to a judge who signed a warrant. I would assume that the evidence gained to get the warrant was controlled documented sales either to a undercover officer or a informant. In either case if they ant to charge based on those transactions then they have to reveal their Undercover or informant. They might not want to do that and simply charge based on what they find in the search warrant.

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WA Mama

5:10 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Suggestion: people who attend the community meeting can wear t-shirts that say, "Don't Sell Weed Out of Your House - MORON!"

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Heatha P Velvet

6:27 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

I would have liked the raid to have been conducted differently Mr. Who, for a dime bag marijauna dealer, which we still don't know if the police found anything proving intent to sell for maybe the third time. Assault rifles ,flash grenades, somebody could have been killed over an ounce of marijauna , would you have wanted that stigma on the neighborhood? I'll say it again, there was no reason all of those windows should have been broken. People can say that it's just glass but imagine if you had 17 windows in your house broken in the middle of winter, I can think of a lot better ways the police could have intimidated them. I don't recall seeing much of a police presence before the raid.

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Ben Rodenburg

10:24 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Until they have been confirmed as drug dealers...do yourself a favor, and don't libel or slander. Or you yourself may be a criminal, and in litigation, before this is all over.

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JJ

11:45 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

I would like to point out that if the police had found the bad guy with 2.5 pounds of weed and firearms than this article would have never been written! The media can't get their facts straight, I know from experience! As a paramedic I've been to hundreds of crime scenes and as always we are informed what happened by the police officers that are investigating the crime. When we read an article about the crime the next day in any of the papers the media is completely wrong 95% of the time. They actually make things up, with that said how can we trust what is being said here today? Furthermore the fact is these raids are conducted 200 times a year in the surrounding towns by this swat team and they are never written about because it's not Homewood but when the police try to stop a drug dealer in Homewood they are vilified! People want their neighborhoods to be safe but when the police try to make their neighborhoods safe the neighbors complain! Continuing with the theme of the media printing anything they want without research I would like to point out that neighbors complaining can NOT justify a search warrant! What is the point of reading news stories when it's obvious they are constantly lying just to gain readers all so they can sell ad space? Think about that the next time you read a news story!

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

10:54 am on Friday, January 13, 2012

I can assure you this article would have been written regardless. As for us not getting our facts straight, please identify what is not factual in this story. Regarding research, I was physically at the location during the raid and after, and I've spent plenty of time attempting to get more information from the police. I can understand frustration of reading media stories that you doubt in other publications, but this is the first I'm hearing about anything you claim to be wrong. Again, I think if you are citing lack of research, perhaps you should do some yourself and be specific.

There's no reason to react toward me for the mistakes of other publications.

JJ

11:53 pm on Thursday, January 12, 2012

Ryan - Why would you write such a one sided story? If you did any investigating you would find out that the police must have bought drugs out of the house several times in a short period of time to get a search warrant. The great thing about the law is that it's all on the internet, do some research, find out why this would have been done, talk to cops about SWAT tactics and finally try and produce a story that isn't making the criminals look like victims. Try writing a story that is fair, well informed and overall informative! This is just another example of writers writings anything they want with no concern for the real facts.

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Ryan Fitzpatrick

11:01 am on Friday, January 13, 2012

http://patch.com/A-qgqS

If there's more to their side, I'm eager to hear it. This is all I have so far.

Heatha P Velvet

9:17 am on Friday, January 13, 2012

I don't know if you read the entire story JJ, but the reason the story is one-sided is because the police have still not commented on what happened. Also, did you look at all of the pictures? Is that really how police conduct raids, the warrant doesn't state that they thought there were weapons in the house, do police really go upstairs and bust out all the windows from the inside? What purpose did that serve? I didn't complain about the previous 2 raids but I find this unexcusable destruction of property in my neighborhood outrageous. Once again, windows are not just glass, they are custom made, very expensive pieces of a property that keep out the elements! Hopefully the police will issue a statement today like they said they would and then Ryan can give us their side of the story.

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Homewood Jim

10:54 am on Friday, January 13, 2012

Thanks for the lesson on windows. Seems you know a lot about windows at least. The reason you call the story one-sides is that certain cultures are taught to not respect police, to see police as the enemy. Other cultures are taught to respect police and obey. Bottom line is that there was illegal activity taking place in the residence. Let's not make windows a straw man, as that divulges your cultural bias.

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Jennifer

11:27 am on Friday, January 13, 2012

@Homewood Jim. "certain cultures" are taught to not respect the police? These "certain cultures" that you're talking about have been repeatedly disrespected by the police through the history of time. If anyone is teaching these "certain cultures" not to respect the police, it's life experience.

I don't really care about the windows. I'm glad that the police are doing their job, however over the top it may have been, and I'm even more glad that these two men are Homewood's biggest problem. It could be far worse.

But you sit here and you write about respecting the police as if it comes down to a simple lesson taught at home. You say "certain cultures" are either taught to respect or disrespect the police as if it is by fault of their own. That is not the case. "Certain cultures" do not trust the police because the police have done something wrong to lose that trust.

I'm not saying the police are terrible, but they certainly make mistakes. Every man who has an issue with the police has not experienced injustice, but before you discuss these "certain cultures" that "are taught to not respect police," maybe you should ask yourself why.

Homewood Jim

1:33 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

@Cfoam - seems you know all about good police work and have all the answers. I suggest you become a police and show us how it should be done. Sounds like you could be really helpful to the HPD.

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Christina

2:09 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

It's interesting that you made that cultural comment, "Homewood" Jim. I believe both Homewood and Flossmoor strive to create a positive and nurturing community for their residents, which is reflected by the abundance of programs and activities offered by the park & school districts, town agencies, and other entities have created this unique environment. Having grown up in Flossmoor from age 2 until I left for college, my cultural identity was surrounded by what Flossmoor offered me as a child and resident. Later in life, when I told people at my university (or currently, at my job) where I was raised, I always see a smile accompanied by a pleasant comment. Therefore, the culture I was taught, grew to knew and understand was that of what Homewood-Flossmoor surrounded me in; which was certainty is not to disrespect the police.

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Ernie Souchak

2:40 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

I think what he was getting at was not the culture of a town, but the culture of race.

Homewood Jim

2:14 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

@Velvet - the value of virtually every house in Homewood is half what it was 10 years ago. It's called a real estate bubble - thanks to Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and Fannie and Freddie. You want to blame 'overzealous police' with a 'vendetta' for your property value going down. Why don't you get to the root cause and blame the POS who live by you and continue to engage in illegal drug activity over and over again. Your comment about "non-violet dime bag drug dealers" clearly indicates that breaking the law 'just a little' is OK. You are part of the problem just like the turds who are your neighbors.

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Heatha P Velvet

3:48 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

You might choose to live in a world where it's ok for the police to go in and unnecessarily destroy property just to send a message but I don't.

Homewood Jim

4:14 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

@Velvet - if you don't like it in Homewood where we have always believed in law & order, why don't you go live in Harvey where you would be much happier.

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Mr Who

4:41 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

Let's end this it is going no where. But just review. The house and residents were target of ongoing drug investigation that has led to the third search warrant being issued BY A JUDGE WHO WAS PRESENTED EVIDENCE .The resident WAS ARRESTED IN THE PAST AS WELL AS NOW FOR DRUGS. The trained police professionals decide how to execute the warrant not the untrained public. There really is not much more to discuss. Those of you that would like the police to do it differently then I suggest you that the test, pass all the qualifications to get hired, attend the academy, and show them a better safer and more productive way to comp,eye their mission. If not shut up!

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Jason Keyes

11:33 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

So much for the Fourth Amendment, hmm?

Is there a reason you don't think the police should obey the law?

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Homewood Jim

11:43 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

@Jason - look everybody! Our newest Constitutional attorney! Please let us all know which law school you graduated from!

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Homewood Jim

12:21 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

@Jason You are entitled to your own opinion. But you aren't entitled to your own FACTS.

Mr Who

4:46 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

Further let's agree that several of you here don't like honor was done, and several of us agree with how it was done. We are not going to agree on his I will not change your opinion nor will ou change mine. The discussion of he it was done has been over done. The police bought drugs from the house got a warrant for the hire time and when they did they found drgs. The amount does not matter. Because you can't know he much will be there at any given time. If the criminals who's house was damage durrnng th warrant want to, go file a lawsuit and see what a judge says. You won't get anything from the Patch.

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Mr Who

4:48 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

And lease excuse the typo's auto correct on my phone goes crazy sometimes.

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for the uninformed

6:19 pm on Friday, January 13, 2012

marijuana does not kill brain cells, thc blocks the cannibinoids leading to your brain cells, which does affect reaction time and memory but does not kill. studies show that if a habitual marijuana smoker quits he will eventually regain access to those blocked brain cells and will have no effects from prior use.

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Phillip R Baggs

5:50 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

This is a classic case of dumb and dumber. Eric even has pictures of drug use and bags of marijuana on his Facebook page. Take a look before Henry reads this to him and they try to figure out how to change permissions (which may take a few weeks). These guys were obviously a product of poor parenting. I hope the retired Chicago police officer living at the house loses his pension (won't happen). Unfortunately, they are at an age where there is really no chance that they will get on the right track. My advice would be to watch Tim Tebow this weekend and have Henry read to Eric "A Purpose Drive Life." If that doesn't work, I suggest you go to the Dollar Store and pick up a couple of Soap on a Ropes.

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Debbie Hart

10:22 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

God, that's funny. Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise dull Saturday morning.

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Debbie Hart

10:20 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Fine upstanding citizens, indeed.

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Steve Burke

9:24 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

drat. they took down the picture of the large bag of bud.

Marc A. Wiley Sr.

6:39 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Thanks for the early morning information and humor Phillip.

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Marc A. Wiley Sr.

10:47 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

Yea, now we can see why they are so popular with a small group of folks and explains all the traffic on that block.

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Legalize Pot

10:58 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

With all due respect to my Father, a former State Trooper, almost every Law Enforcement figures lie, Dad told me this himself! He told me, for example, when ever he was in a high speed chase, adrenalin kicks in, and it becomes personal. I believe that this was the case in this raid!!
Marijuana should be legalized, especially for medical reasons. IT IS NOT A GATEWAY DRUG. Stop wasting your time on going after Marijuana, and spend you time on catching the hard druggies, killers, robbers, domestic abusers, kidnappers, etc. WAKE UP PEOPLE---If anything, Pot mellows you & takes away chronic pain & nausea.

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Jason Keyes

11:53 am on Saturday, January 14, 2012

@ Homewood Jim: The Fourth Amendment prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures.

There was nothing reasonable about this paramilitary assault.

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Dustin Stewart

9:35 pm on Saturday, January 14, 2012

We need to start calling the War On Drugs what it really is: Prohibition

It is sad that we live in a society that tolerates this. Makes me sick.

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Jetta

9:05 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Nextel, you are a racist. I suggest all RATIONAL people read the book "Drug Crazy" to understand the senselessness of American drug policies. When the FDA was created in 1906, there were congressmen who said it is unconstitutional for the federal government to dictate what citizens could and could not put in their bodies. We have become so sheep like that we do not question when government goes too far. Weed is indeed botanically a weed and every gardener knows fighting weeds is a struggle against nature. Inane drug policies create the very social pathologies that are used to jjustify the inane policies. I havee

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Jetta

9:13 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

I have been a resident of Chicago suburbs for 30 years and suburban people are suspicious of anything other than silence and empty streets. They call the police if you are sitting in your car in front of your ownchicken house! I live in Flossmoor and I am sure their are homes with weed in them and I do not care. I would rather my tax money be spent on protection from rapists, murderers, and child molesters.

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Jetta

9:17 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Correction: In front of your own house, don't know where chicken came from.

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Jetta

9:24 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Homewood Jim, you sound like a racist too. And you brought out that tired "law and order" line. We who do not believe in police fascism do not have to move anywhere. Why don't you move to North Korea?

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Jetta

9:26 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Apparently some of you do not read all the Patch crime reports including drunk driving because the majority of perpetrators are white.

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Jetta

9:31 am on Sunday, January 15, 2012

Full disclosure: I do not use weed or any illegal substances nor do I have them in my home, not my choice. I just support social policies that are sensible, not hypocritical, and do more good than harm. Current drug laws are none of these things. THINK!

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Cfoam

12:50 am on Monday, January 16, 2012

Funny as heck comming back and seeing some of the comments here. I'll just have to say that I'm glad certain of the posters here are not mediators on the patch. Wow, you need to respect the Police - a lesson you learned because you have such high morals and ethics... but if it is a Democratic President then it's ok to be disrespectful! How could I have guessed that one! What typical double standards. I thought the comment section was a good way for people to discuss these issues with some level of anonimity - which makes people more honest - but then you have some posters who feel empowered to actually try to stop the conversations cause they don't like what others are saying? Wow, let me tell you - you aren't all that. People are entitled to their own opinions and it is just too bad that might not be the same as yours. I still would like an explaination from the HPD WHY the SWAT actions were called for in this situation and we still haven't got an answer for that. I do want good relationships between the residents and police and I do want them effectively and respectfully protecting the communities best interests but I also don't condone militarstic house raids like this one for misdemeanor offenses. Put this in perspective. If these guys are doing worse things and you know it then tell the residents. These actions and the lack of information is not going to help these relationships and I'm not talking about the residents at that house - just everyone else.

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Mr Who

8:57 pm on Monday, January 16, 2012

Cfoam have you read the press release? It does talk about ongoing criminal activity occurring there. Also he other crimes that are connected there listed previously. Token cars recovered there( from garage) US Marshall's looking for fugitives there, disturbances, ECT. The little dime bag dealers attract a lot of attention from various folks, many times causing drive bys and other problems. That's the issue. That's the problem. This if not handeled will lead to bigger problems.

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Ray Avery

5:22 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I think all you suburban jerkoffs should learn to mind your own business. That's what is wrong with this country, too many people worried about everyone else when they need to mind their own business. Just sayin.

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David Burton

6:36 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

My God what is wrong with all of you people, it was just marijuana, not like Meph or Crack or cocaine. This is Obama and his police state, and not just Obama, its our government, I was in a unit in the military that trained SWAT teams, and when I realized why they were doing it, I left the military.

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C.Rob

8:41 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

ironically, about a year ago, a few players from the homewood flossmoor baseball team were caught at a party with weed and alcohol. the pictures surfaced. Their punishment? suspended for the first two games...however, they still were afforded the oportunity to travel with the team! do you think this made the media? no. do you think their houses were raided? no! and they aren't from the ghetto. many born and raised right there in HOMEWOOD-FLOSSMOOR. in fact, many of their parents are prominent homewood flossmoor residents, homewood flossmoor business owners, and the list continues. this incident was merely swept under the rug.
ironic? i think not

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lolita

1:05 am on Tuesday, May 1, 2012

t don't smoke the stuff,,, discriminating casue I am a black women, since the police never gave my white neighbors tickets for parking in front of their house but gave me a ticket everytime. and I just lived next door.....I hated it .....they allow me to have no peace hunted me down like a criminal

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