UPDATE: Patch Readers Oppose Ban on Burning Leaves
Many state and local government bodies have outlawed placing leaves and other yard waste material in landfills. But Patch readers opposed the idea of placing a ban on burning leaves in a straw poll.
Citizen rights? Government intervention?
Who knew leaf disposal could generate such a heated debate? Some of the debate stems from the fact many state and local goverment bodies now ban leaves and other yard wates from being placed in landfills.
On one side of the issue, there are those who consider burning leaves a time-honored family tradition. On the other side, there are those who raise public health and safety concerns.
At Patch, we want to know what you think. Do you favor a ban on burning leaves? Vote in our Patch poll. And check back to see the final results when voting ends at 9 p.m. Monday, Nov. 5.
lisa
6:51 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
we do not favor the ban. we wish we could burn leaves, it's a fall family tradition that we would love to be able to start up again...
Larry Paveza
7:17 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Kind of tough to have windows open when people are burning leaves. Most towns have free leaf pickup.
arich
2:06 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
It's 40 degrees outside. Why would you have any windows open?
freddie
7:20 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
As the husband of an asthma sufferer, I favor the ban. Every fall when we pass somewhere leave are burning, my wife starts coughing and she just can't stand it
Geoff
11:07 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I'm with ya Freddie. I have children who suffer due to this. I don't think most people understand the issue.
Corry
7:28 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
How about donating the leaves to a farmer to composting? I don't know if that's possible, but it seems like it would help!?
mr. segragation
11:21 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
typical democrat with a stupid solution to a nonexistent issue
Michael Nardoni
7:58 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
No ban on burning leaves! The same Libs that want to ban burning leaves want to also ban fire pits and even fire places.
Emily
1:53 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Why are people in favor of people not getting sick a Liberal thing? Michael, clearly you nor anyone you love suffers from respiratory issues.
Terri
8:34 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
If your child struggled to breathe due to leaf burning, you'd be opposed to it too. I've never heard of anyone wanting to ban fire pits or fireplaces.
Linda T
9:43 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Leaf burning emits toxic fumes that are hazardous to health. People with respiratory conditions such as asthma are especially vulnerable. There are already enough toxic chemicals in the air we breathe, and while I do enjoy the smell of burning leaves I see no reason to add to our already polluted air. http://www.epa.gov/ttnatw01/burn/leafburn2.html
Leaves make excellent mulch. None of them from our yard make it into yard waste bags. They all stay here. My husband uses a mulching mower which breaks the leaves down into fine particles that decompose rapidly and are very good for the soil. When the leaves are really thick, he bags them, and I spread them in our garden beds. Our soil is beautiful, rich, crumbly, and absorbs and holds water very well. I pile the leaves up very thickly over our veggie beds, let them fall as they will on our ornamental beds. By spring, most of them have already decomposed. I even bag some and leave the bags in a hidden area behind some evergreen shrubs, then use them in the veggie beds later in the spring when the ones I put down in fall have decomposed. This helps save water, I don't have buy mulch, it's good for the soil, and we don't spend money on yard waste bags and stickers.
We have a LOT of leaves. Before we got married my husband used to bag the leaves - more than 60 bags, and 60 stickers. I'd rather keep that money in our pockets, and save ourselves the trouble of hauling all those bags of good compost to the curb.
Christina
2:54 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Great suggestions for alternatives, Linda. Thank you!
Mother 24
9:50 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
No Ban!! I respect the people who have asthma, but I cannot believe banning leaf burning will improve ones health. And to Larry, I do not believe leaves are burned all year long & the weather is turning cooler, so if you can't open your window(s) for a period of time, I'm sorry..If you had to rake all the leaves that I do because the village of Hometown doesn't care what their town looks like, you might favor leaf burning!!!
Larry Paveza
10:05 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Banning burning might not improve health, but burning does hurt it. As for fire pits, no problem for them except that some people just let them smolder. Maybe you should attend a City Counsel meeting in Hometown and put your Representatives to task. I generally just mow the leaves that are on my lawn because it is good mulch for the lawn. In New Lenox, the Village comes around and vacuums the piles of leaves that we put to the curb, or they offer free leaf pickup in the fall so people don't burn or leave them inb the street to clog the sewers.
Emily
1:55 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Mother - so I suppose you think everyone who's burning goes up and down the neighborhood informing everyone they are burning so they can close their windows? Please.
laura
2:21 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Mother 24, why must you RAKE leaves? Why not just buy a mulching mower blade?? $15 at Lowes... problem solved. BTW, even if I didn't mind shutting my windows and doors because some idiot thinks he/she has the right to pollute our air, the smoke often still seeps into my older home and makes my eyes and lungs burn! How could that possibly be good for anyone, especially, kids?
Nolan
9:52 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I voted no to burning leaves in residential areas. The homes in most Southland communities are too close together and most have fences so burning leaves is a very real fire hazard. The smoke goes right into your neighbors living and breathing space, so it is also a health hazard. The overall environment is effected too but not to as great an extent as other sources of pollution that we are trying to get under control. Communities should have a secluded collection and burn area where the burning of leaves can be safely controled by a public works and/or a fire department member. Fire pits can be very dangerous and unhealthy for residents and neighbors. As a firefighter I have seen them cause many unwanted fires and the smoke may cause breathing problems. Most people don't realize that a fire pit is only for burning natural dry wood (logs) for recreational use and nothing else.
kara
9:56 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
My father has COPD. Our neighbors were burning leaves when he came to visit and ended up in the hospital. A ban on burning leaves in residential areas helps those with breathing and lung difficulties.
Mother 24
10:00 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
To Nolan & Kara, I repect both your points of view, however, I believe there are far worse things polluting our air & environment than one burning leaves.
Nolan
10:44 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Yes, but the burning of leaves is not going to help those worse things and it hurts the health of the persons in direct contact with a neighbors burning leaves. I wish we could shut down coal plants and get rid of the combustion engine shussbar but it just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Anything we can do to lessen air pollution is a step in the right direction.
SHUSSBAR
10:10 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Shut down coal plants, ban trucks and cars and it will improve asthma problems.
Tom
8:25 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Agreed. Electric cars, Wind and Solar power, and NO MORE FIRES!
Ernie Souchak
10:23 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Obama just issued an Executive Order requiring that all leaves MUST be burned. Those that desire to NOT burn can pay a tax and bag, mulch, or compost.
Nolan
10:53 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Liar, confused and not even funny. The opposite would be true; If you were to burn leaves then paying a tax would help cover the costs of pollution clean-up, and those that mulch or compost would get a rebate for helping the evironment. Bagging and putting it out for our waste disposal companies is already covered by our taxes or fees to them. Besides, leaf burning is covered by local ordinancesat this time, not by the federal government.
Richard DeVries
2:06 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
lol
Tyler Durden
2:09 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
This is absolutely the truth. Make sure to vote for Romney to overturn this order!!!
Tom
8:26 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I would rather pay a leaf pick-up tax (I already do!) than be choked by smoke
Ozzy
11:02 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I remember driving through some SW burbs with smoke so thick you couldn't see more than a foot or two in front of you. Do not miss that at all. I know someone who had to call the fire department because his brain dead neighbors started a leaf fire on a windy day and never checked it. Sure enough, they idiots started his backyard on fire and never even apologized for the damage.
I currently have six Village recycle bins full of leaves that I am about to use around the yard. I'll need plenty more after that. There is so much better use than burning them!
Ozzy
4:09 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Six bins worth of leaves loaded in to the garden today. Keep 'em coming!
RBB
11:16 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I read it wrong so there should be one less for the ban and one more for burning. I yearn for the smells of fall and the days when cigerettes and booze were advertised on TV. What a good life people enjoyed themselves. The cowboy looking out over the great plains thinking life is good or at a party with friends having a drink. Now the days are for drugs for depression or ED or recent backstabbing your political foe in the back. I know smoking and drinking to excess are not good for you, but the ads were at least about enjoying yourself not about getting depressed because your peeing on yourself. So burn some leaves with your friends and have a Hamms from Sky Blue waters!
Nolan
5:12 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
You still have a mullet, don't you.
Tom
8:24 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Not much "Sky Blue" when leaves are being burned... more like gray-black suffocating chemical warfare!
Christina
2:58 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
That was a strange comment.
RBB
11:22 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I just read someones comment. Is there a reason they could be tilled into farmers fields? If the village were to sweep them up and dump them at a farmer field. Make sense to me, any farmers know why we don't do that?
Bill
11:35 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
As of a few years ago it was legal to burn leaves in Chicago as long certain rules were followed (vented container, dry leaves only, small piles, don't ad leaves, once burning). Has this ordinance been changed? What about fire pits? Fireplaces? Wood burning stoves? 10 lbs of burning leaves, or a 10 lb log, isn't the footprint the same?
Nolan
5:18 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
It has been 35 years since you could burn leaves at all in Chicago. You will notice that logs burning give off a very light thin grey smoke while leaves give off a heavy thick black/brown smoke, not the same footprint at all.
Steven p
11:36 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
What makes more pollution burning leaves or trucks picking up an hauling the leaves an then dumping in land fills that have more trucks moving the unwanted easy around an filling space in ever crowded landfills
Dave Janotta
11:37 am on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Why add to air pollution and climate change. Ban leave burning and back yard firepits. I hate it when my neighbor burns the cheapest wood he can find in his pit. It stinks up my whole house.
sells
12:02 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
My leaves have been at the curb since Wednesday; where is the New Lenox truck? Did it break down?
Juvenal
12:42 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
This is a no brainer. The harm it causes to a (not so) few VASTLY exceeds the benefits to those who would like to do this. Burning leaves is a textbook example of a why Mills developed the Harm Principle.
Dan Lambert
3:59 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I love a John Stuart Mill shout out in the Patch comment sections.
james gibson
1:11 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
i watched my neighbor put his leaves on the curb. it stayed there till the plows came to remove the snow. i like the smell of leaves burning,but it should be done respectfully. when it is calm outside. I mulch when i can. plan on bulding a compost.
Michael M.
1:54 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Leaves are biodegradable. Put them in the landfill. I have an even better idea that could make the city money. The city could collect the leaves and create a mulch and compost farm where they can sell the mulch and compost to the general public or to nurseries; this money could be used to offset the city deficit.
How hard it is to use free market principles and capitalism to solve some of these problems? It's not, I just gave a great example, but most of you say to ban leaf burning, then offer no solution.
Juvenal
11:10 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Apparently decomposing leaves and grass create a big methane gas problem in landfills which is why they are now prohibited...
Linda Dillman
2:03 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
The smoke from burning leaves many with respiratory problems gasping for air, and that smell permeates the house also. It is so easy to run the lawn mower over the leaves, bag them up and use them for mulch in the garden or bare spots on the lawn.
Richard DeVries
2:05 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Hate the smell of burning leaves. they make me choke. Keep the ban. Dont see how polluting the air and other peoples homes is a family tradition. Unless you are way away from other homes.like 5 miles away..
Bob Laird
2:21 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
I love fall and I hate it. I love the colors and the the way it smells, but it means winter is on the way. Fondest memories are when I was a kid and we had the fall feeling and burning leaves were a part of it. All the prudes can lock themselves in thier houses for a while, I'm going outside.
MudTurtle
3:48 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Michael Nar: I want to burn my leaves, oppose any ban, but I'm also super-liberal. So, I don't think lib/conserv has anything to do with leaf burning. I bet Obama would allow leaf burning.
Borninol
4:51 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
My God!! I can't believe some of you are so whiney. Suck it up people. Not that big of a deal.
Nolan
5:27 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
It is a big deal when you can't breathe. The American Lung Association tagline; When you can't breathe nothing else matters.
Eileen Finn
5:02 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
BAN THE BURNING LEAVE. My brother & his family's garage & sheds burned down last year be4 Thanksgiving.. Everything' s Gone (Xmas decortions,bikes,toys ,
all gone/ insurance doesn't cover everything- family sad)
sue hojdik
6:02 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
burning leaves really isn't a good idea these days as so many people live much closer together and have respitory conditions. people once used to burn their own garbage. that wasn't a good idea either.
Tom
8:21 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
A ban on leaf burning? Of Course! That's a NO-BRAINER!
Jenniffer Faruzzi
8:29 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
When it effects kids on a soccer team when they are trying to play, that tells me something. It was horrible to other day at Spencer Fields. Even the parenta were complaining. DOESN'T THAT MEAN ANYTHING PEOPLE?! Being an asthma sufferer it is HORRIBLE!
Shirley Brandie
8:45 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Smoking up an entire neighborhood by burning leaves because some of you think it is easier than bagging them! One good excuse for laziness, in my opinion. The stench is awful and why should anyone else have to put up with smoke from a neighbor... any smoke!
Ban the leaf burning!
yoka ward
10:54 pm on Saturday, November 3, 2012
Linda T is correct. We mulch our leaves, have a compost pile and our lawn looks great. I don't have asthma, but know enough people who do and would never want to endanger their health.
babyboomer
6:39 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
I do not favor a ban, because another government law that's impossible to inforce is not reasonable, however, it is better to compost. When you bag your leaves and have someone pick them up is like "throwing away your soil".
Nolan
6:34 pm on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Almost every city, town, and village around here has had bans on burning leaves for decades and it is very enforceable. As a firefighter I have been called to many homes for leaf burning and have called the police if the residents did not comply with our request. I have also been called to many fence, garage and house fires caused by people burning leaves. That is very sad.
Larry Paveza
7:04 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
If you mulch them with your lawnmower, problem solved. Too many people feel the need to bag their grass clippings and send them off to be composted by others. We all have to have our automobiles tested for emissions, and air quality suffers in the fall with leaf burning. As for pickup in New lenox, they start at the North end of town weather permitting and work their way South. I believe that they have at least 2 machines that pick up. Also, the yard waste disposal does not go on forever. I do believe it runs until the end of Novemebr. Yard waste does not go into a garbage landfill. To the person in Hometown. You are thinking of just one person burning leaves. Mulitply that by the number of homes burning at one time! If inhaling that kind of smoke is so good for you, why are Fire fighters hospitalized for smoke inhalation. This is not a Liberal or Conservative view.
dave bird
7:26 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
i have copd and i love the smell for one month out of the year,at least i can see and smell it,but i can't see and smell hydro-carbons and toxic metals in the air all year round.GET OVER IT
swiper
8:29 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
Absolutely, it is a NO to burning leaves.
Silly idea to make other people sick
CR111
9:19 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
RBB those sure were the good old days:) I love the smell Of burning leaves in autumn. It can be done respectfully and not in excess. There is poison and danger everywhere, toughen up people! They are just leaves. Enjoy the season.
Michelle Power
11:00 am on Sunday, November 4, 2012
I am in favor of a ban. I have a 7 yr old daughter who was born premature. She STILL has lung issues and ends up in respiratory distress and in the hospital. She can not play outside when leaves are burning. Its not fair for a child to get so sick, need IV's and oxygen, and not be allowed to play. My son and I also have asthma and it makes us choke and need our breathing medication. Its not right to impose on other peoples health just to burn leaves.
Debbie
7:03 am on Monday, November 5, 2012
I am in favor of banning the burning of leaves. The stink from wet leaves smoldering and seeping into my house is sickening. I do not even have to open my windows to smell the overpowering stink. There is nothing but mold, animal waste and toxins being put into our air. If I walk outside to get the mail, my clothes absorb the smoke filled air - disgusting!
LISA HINES
7:35 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
What is sickening and disgusting to me is the "stink" of burning flesh (meat) during the warm months, also known as 'grilling season'. It can be late spring, summer or early fall- usually times when most people have their windows open for long periods of time. And I am sure that "animal waste and toxins" are "being put into our air" by both the meat cooking and the gas/charcoal burned. And, yes, the smell is absorbed and overpowering.
However, the difference is-- I have NEVER ONCE thought of trying to limit, prohibit or ban someone from doing something (grilling) that I may find offensive, repulsive or nauseating. It never occured to me to oppose it, because we all should have a choice and we all have different preferences. And I can pretty much guarantee that if I did try to start a ban on grilling- I would be the one on the skewer !!
Susan
3:19 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Ban!! It pollutes the air & it just plain STINKS!! I like to crack open a window just to let a little fresh air in during the winter & I don't want our house smelling like smoke. It gives my husband & I a headache! Some people are just too damn lazy to put their leaves, etc. in their waste container, & choose to burn them. Even if you walk outside, your clothes, hair, etc. pick up the smell. Plus, there is other toxins in these leaves that we have to breathe in. If someone likes the smell of burning leaves so much, roll one up & smoke it!!
Denice
4:34 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I don't support the ban on leaf burning. Autumn is my favorite season, and there;is just something so nostalgic that's triggered in me when I smell burning leaves. What's next? Are we going to ban charcoal burning grills in the summer?
Michael Wright
5:58 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I grew up when the law allowed leaves to be burned. I love that smell in the air and I suffer from adult asthma (I'm a non-smoker with overall bad respiratory issues), but I still love that smell; it's never bothered me. When I was a kid, my sister and I used to rake leaves into a huge pile and then dive right in (which meant we ended up raking the leaves twice)! I love Autumn, the smell of burning leaves, apples baking in the oven...just great memories. And perhaps if allowed again, the individual towns and communities could select 1 day a week for a few week time span only to burn in the Autumn. That way, those with breathing/allergy issues can plan around it and it would be for a very short, specific time. I don't ever recall young people of my generation having as many health problems as today's youth (I'm in my late 50's). Perhaps we've been too cautious with everything? Rake up a pile of leaves and burn 'em; Roast some marshmellows or make S'Mores; enjoy the Fall and have a blast!
Tom
8:15 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
"those with breathing/allergy issues can plan around it"
Why should I have to 'plan my day around' YOUR nefarious hobby?
That's like saying 'plan for my cutting in line in front of you' at the movie line. Or 'plan for my drunk driving on the freeway -- get out of the way!'
Larry Paveza
5:53 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
A simple call to the Village of New lenox to ask what the schedule is for picking up in your area would aleviate your concerns
N Yan
1:03 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
There is free leaf pick-up. My son has terrible allergies and asthma and those burning leaves makes it absolutely terrible for him. I can already attribute two sick days from school due to this...too much pollution, hard for all to breathe. I would like to see a ban.
MM
6:54 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I wish Oak Lawn would have FREE leaf pickup. I think many a moon ago they use to pick up our leaves from the street, but even the street sweepers you can't count on nowadays.. On my block on the northwest side of Oak Lawn, street sweeping comes along once ever 2 or 3 months. I wish they had signs on our street like in Cicero, IL that said what day they will do it on our side of the street. I would gladly move my vehicle ahead of time. And if someone comes on here to comment that Oak Lawn does in fact street sweep more than I had mentioned then it's probably because somebody from the village lives on your block. Nobody of any "importance" like that lives on my block.
Nolan
8:26 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Oak Lawn does have free leaf pick-up. I put out a large can of only leaves every week for the last 5 weeks and they have taken it. I don't know what you mean.
MM
1:08 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
When you could just sweep them onto the street in front of your house. No bags or cans.
The Guru
5:18 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
And a ticket because its against ordinance...... it clogs the drains and causes flooding in the street.
lala
5:48 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Maybe those that love the smell can find a candle with the scent. It should be banned if it is hurting the health of others. After all, smoking in public was banned for health concerns.
David Brown
1:59 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Well, geesh, what's the odds that you might find someone who lives near you that is; elderly, has asthma, emphysema, has a baby/child with lungs that are developing or someone with heart disease anywhere near you? Perhaps you could remove wheel chair ramps because the majority of people don't need them? Braille on doors? Hand grips on public toilets for the handicapped? Perhaps eliminate special schools for those with special needs?
She also never mentioned that particulates inhaled from burning leaves can remain in your lungs for months or sometimes years and they DO contain known carcinogens
Nolan
10:41 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
Lisa Hines, you've got to be kidding me. Most grills are gas now and give off almost no unburned pollutants. The same with cooking meat, no pollutants. You must not be a meat eater to have used such a poor example. Humans and our decendants have been eating meat over a fire for about 3 million years, it's what has made our brains bigger. We are still biologically efficient for eating meat so get with your race.
LISA HINES
11:33 pm on Wednesday, November 28, 2012
First of all, we needn't be rude. Second, my point was not one of 'pollutants' and grill safety. My quotes were from Debbie's own post. My point was that she is annoyed at the smelling/burning of leaves and I am annoyed by the smelling/burning of flesh-- But I'm not one of the people posting and complaining about it and trying to get people to stop grilling just so I do not have to smell it.
The point is- our 'race' has the option of making choices. We should respect that.
Darnell
7:17 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH!!!! Going into the plastic bubble business. From the amount of whiners on here about pollutants business should be great!
Nolan
8:56 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Hey Darnell, I wear a plastic bubble over my face when I go to put out the garage and house fires caused every year by burning leaves. I also put a plastic bubble over my patients faces (O2 mask) because they are having an asthma attack brought on from their neighbor burning leaves. These incidents happen all the time but those people who lose all of their belongings or die so someone can enjoy the smell of burning leaves, yea, they are just whining. If the EPA wasn't doing their job for the last 50+ years you wouldn't have the air to say WAH WAH WAH.
Darnell
10:36 am on Friday, November 30, 2012
Hey Nolan,,your a hero,,feel better now? If people are stupid enough to burn leaves next to their house and garage and they burn down,,oh well! It happens,,same as people falling asleep with a cigarette / cigar and setting beds/ couches / houses on fire,,it happens. Same as dumbasses frying turkey's in their garages and burning houses down, it happens. Same as people pulling the pin in their garages with the doors down and car running, it happens. Same as the people who have asthma attacks on the bad ozone days in the summer due to pollutants in the stagnated air that your EPA has done SUCH a wonderful job at cleaning up, it happens.Same as the people that live in south Gary and suffer from the pollutants emitted by the refineries and steel mills where your EPA has so diligently according to you, have done their job. it happens,,,DAILY! Don't presume your the only one that does / did what you do. Because of the mistakes people make and continue to, you have job security. So step down off the soap box. Wah Wah Wah!!
Nolan
8:34 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
Lisa Hines. I'm sorry if I came across rude, I was actually trying to be funny, as I thought you were. I totally agree with you about free choice, everyone should have it. It is when your free choice goes against someone elses free choice that things get sticky. In this case, when someone is effecting another persons health and the planets ecosystem with a want, then that persons choice to enjoy the smell of burning leaves seems much less important.. The needs of the many definitely outweigh the needs of the few, especially when it is just a WANT. Banning the burning of leaves is the logical choice.
Eric B.
9:14 am on Thursday, November 29, 2012
I'm sure everyone can agree that there are times when the smell of burning leaves isn't that troublesome. Obviously you can't regulate some idiot burning wet leaves, or someone having a fire on a windy day so that it affects 3 subdivisions. This is kind of like a discussion on banning smoking in bars. Once that ban was in place, I'm sure the majority of people here can't imagine going back to places that allowed smoking. It's a public health issue, and everyone should be respectful of their neighbors and find a better alternative to disposing of your leaves.
Nolan
10:46 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012
Darnell, all I can say is read a book every once in a while. You would be amazed if you learned how much worse the polution would be if it wasn't for the EPA and other environmental organizations. For everything you say "it happens" for is a nieve statement. All of those things happen because as a society we are uncareing, lazy and selfish and we don't have the sense to clean up out own mess. As far as my "soapbox", I would never step up on one. I was just pointing out that I have a unique perspective on this subject because of my career. I also realize why I have a job, it's because people make mistakes. Most of them, though, can be avoided by not being lazy (maintaining your home and appliances, not smoking in bed, working smoke detectors, exercising and eating healthy, paper bagging or composting your leaves; not BURNING THEM). That brings me back to another point: most of the garages and houses that were burned down from someone burning leaves were the neighbors house and/or garage. Job security because of stupid people will always be there.
Darnell
9:00 am on Saturday, December 1, 2012
Sorry, you were on a soapbox in that comment! As you are in this one. Read a book? I was reading books long before you were papa's little squirt! You want to be Fireman Sam,,have at it! The stage is yours!
Nolan
1:08 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012
Darnell, from what I see in your past comments going back to Aug. 2011 (16+ pages of comments) I think you have built and worn out more soap boxes then I could imagine. Apparently everyone is a whiner or a cry baby (wah wah use) except you. You have some well thought out and researched information to back up your opinions, but that's just it, they are your opinions. Let everyone else have their opinions, that's what these spaces are about. If you want to give people more info on a subject, fine, but don't make them feel bad for giving their opinion about a topic that is important to them. Your largest contributions are about politics, something you seem to know a great deal about. It appears as if you do not like the government officials in OF, OL, Forest Preserve District, Chicago, Cook County, IL, and the national level. Well, there are at least 3 ways to change government; contact your politicians and ask, vote, and run for office. You seem to have so much time on your hands, why don't you put it to good use and run for office, because you are being wasted here on these comment boards. Just think, you could use all your Forrest Gump quotes while speaking to the public from a huge soap box. Maybe you are too busy with the plastic bubble business you often refer to. I would be guessing, but I figured you as retired but not yet into the traveling thing. Go, take the time, travel, relax, loosen up a little, enjoy life in your old age. I'm a few years shy, but can't wait.
Larry Paveza
5:24 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012
I'm just glad that we were only talking about burning leaves!
Christina
7:35 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012
Yeah, (smile) this has gotten out of hand!
S.
6:37 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012
Larry's comment made me laugh out loud !! Good one
Linda T
7:05 pm on Saturday, December 1, 2012
Funny in a way, but also kind of sad that some people can't disagree without being insulting.
Larry Paveza
7:02 am on Sunday, December 2, 2012
Hey everybody. Let's have a good Holiday Season and argue about burning leaves next fall, OK?
dave bird
7:16 am on Sunday, December 2, 2012
MERRY CHRISTMAS and don't forget the yuletide log
jane doe
6:59 pm on Saturday, April 20, 2013
Growing up in Flossmoor, we ALWAYS had a ban. Suddenly, this weirdo family moves into the neighborhood and starts burning everything- leaves, sticks, grass, garbage, you name it- year 'round. My father has asthma. It makes me cough whenever I seem to visit. This family is a bunch of pyros. I'm sick of it. Flossmoor needs to keep the ban. They use an outdoor fireplace to do this, too. Then they leave it unattended. What exactly is the point, other than to pollute the neighborhood? Disgusting. Flossmoor used to be nice. Now it's filling up with irresponsible, ignorant jerks. And of course they had a Romney sign in their front yard. Probably burned that, too!